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- Date: Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:10 BST-1
- From: Ofir Gal <ogal@cix.compulink.co.uk>
- Subject: Re: Proposal
- To: gem-list@world.std.com
- Message-Id: <memo.260144@cix.compulink.co.uk>
- Precedence: bulk
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- In-Reply-To: <199406010806.KAA19392@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl>
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- >I don't like it that almost any key has been given away already. That is
- >one reason I want to see fewer short-cuts in the proposal. Another
- >reason is that a program that wants to support all these short-cuts in
- >menus will have LARGE menus. Anyway, what I think is a better solution
- >is to have a backward/forward radiobuttonblock in the CTRL F (find)
- >dialog. That way one can save some menu space and keyboardshortcuts.
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- Let me change my mind, this makes more sense than a specific key for
- find previous.
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- >I don't like 'light'. I think this has to do with the weight of a
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- Me neither.
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- >As with all these short-cuts, I think that these are merely guidelines,
- >which you use should you provide a function, so there is nu MUST provide
- >for this function I think.
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- Exactly, you should only provide the keyboard shortcuts if they are useful
- in your program.
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- >Agreed, I think we do need some standard here too. Maybe we should
- >suggest that the minimizer is only for non-modal dialogs, and that
- >dialogs never have the fuller and scroll-bar. I really dislike some
- >programs that were written with 640*480 in mind, that give me scrollbars
- >to move through the dialog on my 640*400 screen. Maybe it would be a
- >good recommendation to limit dialogs to 320 pixels in the vertical
- >direction.
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- I agree.
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- >I like the idea of moving to first and last field. Maybe we can use the
- >same keys here as Atari prescribed for cursor movement, like shift
- >downarrow for last field and shift uparrow for first field. BTW what is
- >EGEM? Is it a library? Is it available as source, and can it be compiled
- >with Sozobon C? (a private reply will do fine, not everyone may be
- >interested).
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- Yes. My toolkit currently supports:
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- ClrHome - jump to first editable field
- Shift+ClrHome - jump to last editable field
- Tab or down arrow - move one field forward with wrap
- Shift+Tab or up arrow - move one field back with wrap
- Shift+left arrow - move to start of field
- Shift+right arrow - move to end of field
- Control+left - move back one word
- Control+right - move forward one word
- Control+Delete - delete text from cursor position
- Control+Backspace - delete text up to cursor
- Shift+Insert - Display ASCII table.
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- Some of these will have to change to follow the new guidelines, but the
- principle applies. These are based on Let 'em Fly which will have to
- change as well. Luckily, development of V2 is currently taking place and
- the developers are on this list.
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- >Agreed. And maybe we should recommend the use of a standard font
- >selector (like the UFSL) if one is available.
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- What is UFSL?
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- Bye,
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- Ofir ogal@cix.compulink.co.uk
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